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1/13/01: Written by juz10 h9
What a show this was! The first in the new millenium and one of the worst shows we've played in a long time! We sat around for nearly 8 hours until it was our turn to close this show and needless to say, we were exhausted. A lot was riding on this; the first show of what was supposed to be our long awaited relationship with Liquid Magazine. Instead it was plaqued with resentment and misunderstandings. Between feeling out of place and uncomfortable (not to mention the tension) it was really a bit much to bear. I personally have grown sick of the entire bastardized hardcore/rap-metal scene and was full of disdain. Not a single band really caught my attention except for SPACE AND NOISE (who dared to jam hard while others where soloing all over the place or bouncing around as if in a DR. DRE video). The rest were mediocre at best aside from a few of the old school death metal acts. If not for Gabe & LOVE MUFFIN, I think I would have lost my mind. Shoutz to Aaron & IN4RED.

Since this is our website and we are free to say whatever we want, I'll just come right out with the source of my attrition; a somewhat known band called G LETHAL 9. GL9 (before I even heard their music) was really on my personal list of groups to avoid for no other reason that they could have cared less for LARVAMIND and were really into advancing themselves. There was a time [and I should point out this was waaaaaaaaaay before their current line-up] when they tried to recruit Nixon as their bass player and other scenarios where even Bob and myself were rumored about, but not once did they concern themselves with LARVAMIND as a whole. Even the one time we actually tried to book them a gig [a benefit show for Club Hoi Polloi] proved to be fruitless. My personal belief is that if you're not going to go out of your way to help or support a band within your means, then you're in this scene for the wrong reasons. Instead, LARVAMIND has developed an interesting trait of working with other groups, recording their demos or booking them at our shows and they do nothing more than take advantage of us... Not so much as a rant this time, just an observation.

At any rate, hours before we took the stage, I came across the backstage area of the PNA Club to get a 3 prong adapter for Gabe's amp when Nixon called me over to talk to this guy he was talking to. His name will go unmentioned here, but suffice to say, him and Nixon actually had gone to school together and he was now working for this record "label". He handed me a contractual booklet he kept referring to as the label's "agreement" and pretty much wanted us to sign right then and there. Since I was in no particular hurry to sign my life away (and not to mention we were all growing weary of this show), I pocketed the "agreement", gave him our email, and went on my merry way. Before leaving though, he made sure to keep telling me how interested he was in our band and how much he dug our website. Nevertheless, no matter how interested he seemed, neither him nor his boss could stay another hour or so to actually see us play. And why should they? They already heard our Real Audio and MP3 files...

As the night progressed, we saw the label's contract everywhere. Even a band that didn't play that night got an offer! (Not to say LOVE MUFFIN isn't worthy of a record deal -- Hell, they blew away most of the bands that played that night. But to just arbitrarily throw contracts around to people you've never heard before really says a lot about the integrity of the label.)

That following week I really had to do my homework. I read and reread every line and tried my best to make heads and tales out of their ridiculously over-worded contract. [When I get the actual "agreement" booklet back from Bob or Nixon, I'll be sure to put some scans of it on here.] By the time I was done I had amassed several questions I couldn't wait to ask in person.

In the 6 days between that PNA show and our scheduled meeting with the label, I exchanged several emails with the Artist Affairs Executive who originally gave me the contract. Here now, for the first time ever, is a look into the LARVAMIND mailbox:

«Communications»
Justin,
It was nice to meet you and talk for awhile. I figure you've already reviewed the online agreement, and I would like to know what you think. My boss will be in town for the next few weeks, so we plan on getting a lot accomplished. I'm booked with meetings Monday-Wednesday, but I have nothing planned on Thursday as of now. If you want to get together, email me back so we can set a time and place. I would also like to here {sic} your music, so bring a disc if you have on {sic} available. As for booking, we are connected with Maniac Records, so anyone we book we like to have signed to the label's website. It helps convince the boss when it becomes time to shell out promo money. We can discuss more later on this week.
Later on,
K--

What the "K" man didn't know was that I was one up on him. He didn't know I knew he was from our hometown and that he was familiar with our surroundings. So, in an effort to see how much of himself he would reveal, I played dumbed and asked some fairly open questions. Irreguardless, we were still prepared to take him to the Frass Factory (which, was about as closed to the public and hidden away as the Batcave).
Hi there!
Currently our weekly schedule is a bit rough. Nixon (our bass player you met) and myself work at Ameriwood [in Dowagiac] on 3rd shift. This means we sleep during the day & have really short nights coz we have to be at work no later than 10:30pm and sometimes even earlier.

We've read the "agreement" booklet and are still discussing a few things amongst ourselves. Because of our steady work/rehearsal schedule we're looking at Friday evening as our earliest possible free day for us to get together with you. Thursday would normally be fine but Nixon's got a dentist's appointment to tend to that was made weeks ago (and we'd rather not make any band decisions til we're all together). I'm sure you understand.

Anyway, if you'd like, we could get together Friday or Saturday anytime between 5pm and whenever. Please let us know. If you wanna meet up in Dowagiac we could take you to our "bat cave" and show you our homemade studio and let you sample some of our recordings. Are you familiar with our little turd of a town? I believe you mentioned the Wounded Minnow. We could always meet there, talk some things over and then head out to our place.

Let me know what you think,
Justin

Justin,
I just got back from a meeting with the CEO of Maniac Records and things are looking good for my booking company. I'll be with him on Friday and Saturday, but I might have time available early Friday afternoon or we might have to wait till Sunday. I'd prefer early Friday afternoon because I think I have a meeting with a band from Battle Creek scheduled for Sunday night. Tell me what's on your mind. I'll be in contact very soon.

Late,{sic}
K--


Interestingly enough, this is the first mention of a "booking company." But as you can tell, "K" has been very busy hanging out with other bands (and spreading their contract around as well). It's a well known ethic when it comes to agents: try to find personal/band agents with as few other clients as possible. This way you are a higher priority. If Maniac Records (or this new-to-light booking company) has a lot of bands in their roster, how can any single one of them get the attention they deserve?
Hello again.
There's a possibility we may have to work that night, if so then we're only good from as early as 5pm til *possibly* 11pm. We do get off that morning around 7am, so that may be an option if you're up for it. Otherwise, Sunday should be fine (although that is also our Monday and we'd have to go back into work that night).

I really hate to sound like a complicated pain in your ass, but these past couple of weeks have been rather intense for us. Saturday is FOR CERTAIN a day off for us and if we need to travel to Battle Creek or somewhere else to talk to you guys then we're prepared to do it.

Again, let us know what sounds best for you..
Justin

Justin,
If we could meet around 5 or 6pm, I definitely could make it, but I have to be in K-Zoo later that evening to catch a show. The Minnow sounds fine, but if you have somewhere else in mind I'm open to ideas. I'll bring a rough draft of the booking agreement with me.

Later,
K--


Ah, enter the "booking agreement"! This is where things get interesting. Like promised, we met "K" down at the Minnow in Dowagiac and he seemed really pressed for time. In fact, the whole meeting [that we spent the previous week in preparation for] seemed like it was hurried. As it turns out, he was selling the idea that if we hooked up with the label we could play a really big show coming up with G LETHAL 9 and HED PE. Really, we couldn't care less who we could be playing shows with. We were looking at the big picture. In retrospect, I think he was expecting us to forgo everything and sign on the dotted line right then and there (again). But instead, we nailed him with a barrage of concerns we gathered from the initial record contract. Of the dozens of questions we tossed at him, nothing went answered. I even pointed out discrepencies in the contract and he seemed generally confused. At one point I even made him read the damn thing to see if he could decipher it and he seem at a lost. Then he pointed out that the "agreement" wasn't exclusive (even though it was written that way). Which, of course, brings us to an interesting point: If we were expected to sign something on the spot that was contrary to the agreement we were bound by, then whose to say there aren't other things that have already been changed or would be changed along the way??

Then he proceeded to tell us his story of another band we've played with, TRIPLE F. He pretty much gave us a sob story about how he went through all the hoops and in the end the guys in TRIPLE F shot him down.

"It was the first time I've ever been turned down," he said.

So what? Does this mean if we decide that Maniac Records isn't for us then we're just like TRIPLE F? It seemed like he was trying to get at us at any angle.

At one point he even told us how he's going to immediately "shop" G LETHAL 9 to Roadrunner Records. Shop? Pimp? It's all the same; buzzwords sharks have thrown at us for 2 years now to try to get out attention.

Still, we tried to save face and offer this guy the opportunity to come into our studio and listen to our demos. And the more we tried to explain to him that we were unwilling to make people actually pay for songs we've provided for free online for several months (if not over a year by now) the more he chose not to listen. Why would we want to sell anyone material we are no longer comfortable with? If nothing else, we want our new found relationships with any press, booking agency or label (Maniac Records or otherwise) to help us move forward, not backwards. Yet there wasn't enough time for that. Not enough time for us. After days of preparation, the representative for the label [and the man with his own booking "company"] decided he'd better go and make it to his even more important meeting reguarding the HED PE show. In a way, it seemed as though it were a cop out. But before leaving he promised further contact within the week and the chance for us to meet him and the CEO of Maniac Records to finally get the answers to all of the questions and concerns we shared.

Justin,
We are going to have an informal meeting with all the talent that we're scouting in the region Wednesday the 30th. It's going to be in K-Zoo and in the evening. Our CEO is going to be there with a few others to answer questions, and so forth. He has to be in Cleveland this week to judge the finals of the battle of the bands. I think I told you the finals were Saturday, but that was only the semi's. We signed the winner after the show. Their named Junkhead and out of Ohio. They have a nice write-up on their website which is Junkhead1.com, if you want to check it out. I really need to hear a disc soon, so let me know when I can get a listen. Also, email me back with any other questions or comments. I also wanted to note that only GL9 and you guys were offered an agreement. Johnnie from Killing for Sport already works for us. I made that offer to you on a gut feeling. I've heard Bobby before, and am astounded by how good he is. I want to help local bands from my hometown. I feel it's my job to put this little shit-town on the map. If you guys are truly interested, try and make the meeting, and let me know how you feel.

Later,
K--

Well, this about clinched it for us. No matter how many times we tried to get this guy to hear our music (and no matter how many times we had to remind him we had songs online) they just couldn't seem to get the idea. And that's kinda ironic since Maniac Records is actually putting itself off as an online record company like the infamous mp3.com! Furthermore, it seems we weren't the only ones with some concerns as the need for a big "group" meeting with all the bands became necessary. Still, there was one glaring discrepancy: how could he say that only GL9 and ourselves were offered an "agreement"? Did they really think we didn't know anybody at this show or would talk to other bands?

In the end, putting a meeting in the middle of the week (when most people work) and in the evening at a town so far a way was a bit to rediculous for us. It's supposed to be the job of the agencies to bend over backwards for the bands but instead it felt like we were being bent over a barrel. And for someone so committed "to put this little shit-town on the map", he never emailed us again. Guess they lost interest in us in dealing with all the bigger bands. [snicker]

Still, this episode didn't really affect us much. We brushed off this whole incident and filed it away with the other lousy industry sharks we've delt with. And with this following polite and understated note:

K--,
What is the exact time and location of this meeting? As of right now I highly doubt we're going to be able to attend as Nixon and I will be working and Kzoo is quite aways. (Keep in mind that Dowagiac is still a half a hour drive for me to get to work to everyday, let alone an extra drive to Kalamazoo.)

How much talent are you guys "scouting" in this area? If GL9 and us were the only ones offered an agreement, then what was the CEO of Maniac Records handing out booklets to LOVE MUFFIN & Co.?

LARVAMIND is very committed to its music, has been for years, and will be with or without agreements, contracts or anything else. We've been screwed over by managers, booking agents and every other industry scum that thought of a title to name itself; so you have to understand our position. We are NOT like TRIPLE F and get our kicks by luring intrest from labels (or anyone else) and then shooting them down because it's the "punk" thing to do. Fuck punk.

We have nothing to loose either way and embrace new directions music or any other media types may take us...But we do have our limits.

We have all read your booking *agreement* and have some general questions and concerns we'd like to ask you guys IN PERSON and not via email. I am not the spokesperson for Larvamind and won't ask questions on Bob or Nixon's behalf.

As for our cd(s), we had one ready to go for you to listen to last Friday. I understand that you were in a hurry, but there is nothing more we'd want to provide than what is already on our website. All of our cds are DIY and self-burned. Furthermore, they feature David Alm as the vocalist at a time when this band wasn't as heavy nor as progressive. To let you have any of our previous recordings would be an absolute misrepresentation of ourselves and we're not about to lie or mislead anyone.

Yes, Bob is an amazing drummer, as Nixon is a very talented bass player. But we also try to remain well rounded. If you like, you could always check out one of our shows or come see us rehearse sometime.

We are truely interested, but we're also into not losing our jobs.

We hope you understand,
Justin

And for the record, before I end this little essay with a smile, anyone can start a "record label" or "booking agency". It requires very little, if any, financial backing. At one point when we recorded the Milk Heavy LP, the agent that was hounding us at the time urged us to get business licences and to appoint each other as "CEOs" of Larvamind.

LM, INC?
We think not.

And if you're curious as to why GL9 is prone to such attention from this particular label, it may very well be because this supposed "booking company" this Artist Affairs Executive [their words, not mine] was affiliated with is partnered with their bass player.

Dishonest? No.
Misleading? Yes.

Perhaps when LARVAMIND takes a few weeks off before hitting the road next time I'll hook up with Gabe from LOVE MUFFIN and we'll both start different record labels. Then we'll sign each other's band and ride the publicity train all the way to the bank...

God, if it were only that easy...